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Kamandi Last Boy on Earth Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() quote: Sounds familiar. But Neil's celebrity was pretty brief - not what you'd call a widely remebered fan favorite. It wouldn't surprise me if it appeared in the Georgia Strait. I remember the artist appearing once in a human interest news bit and that's all - never read the strip. Neil was a Disney-style B&W horse published in the late 70's or early 80's IIRC. IP: Logged |
Dr. Van Thorp Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Neil appeared in an issue of Charlton Bullseye IP: Logged |
Kamandi Last Boy on Earth Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() quote: I believe you, Doc. The thing is, Vancouver being the extreme West end of the Canadian part of the magazine distribution biz, there were lots of things that never got to my local comics rack when I was a kid. Thanks why the prospect of tracking down these "lost classics" published here in my home town is so exciting. IP: Logged |
NecessaryImpurity Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() quote: 'Twernt no such thing! I spent the first half of the '70s in White Rock (rural South Surrey, to be exact, but I bought comics in White Rock), and was able to get full runs of plenty of DC titles. It is possible that some titles saw NO distribution (I can't remember seeing Weird Western, but I wasn't interested in westerns then, either). My brothers collected several Charlton titles, such as Hong Kong Phooey, Six Million Dollar Man, and the Space:1999 magazine. Harvey stuff, esp. Richie Rich was common, too. Incidentally, the only home-grown title I can recall is Captain Canuck. I never bought it; the patriotic hero seemed kinda silly to me. But then, I never bought Captain America, either. IP: Logged |
NecessaryImpurity Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() Out in the 'burbs it was nie impossible to collect a series since distribution was totally random. [/QUOTE] 'Twernt no such thing! I spent the first half of the '70s in White Rock (rural South Surrey, to be exact, but I bought comics in White Rock), and was able to get full runs of plenty of DC titles. It is possible that some titles saw NO distribution (I can't remember seeing Weird Western, but I wasn't interested in westerns then, either). My brothers collected several Charlton titles, such as Hong Kong Phooey, Six Million Dollar Man, and the Space:1999 magazine. Harvey stuff, esp. Richie Rich was common, too. Incidentally, the only home-grown title I can recall is Captain Canuck. I never bought it; the patriotic hero seemed kinda silly to me. But then, I never bought Captain America, either. IP: Logged |
NecessaryImpurity Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() Jeez, when the first post glitched, I backed up to the thread, refreshed it, saw nothing, refreshed AGAIN, STILL saw nothing, and then decided to repost. Surprise! Double post! What a lousy program. IP: Logged |
India Ink Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() I may have seen Neil the Horse in Charlton Bullseye, and Canuck Comics tells me he was published in the early eighties by Aardvark/Vanaheim. But this isn't what I'm remembering. I'm remembering a black & white strip type (well actually more like a Sunday page layout, but in black & white) Neil the Horse in some sort of newspaper publication (it might have even been a student newspaper). In the late eighties (between living on my own in Edmonton for some years prior to that and moving to my own place in Vancouver after that) I briefly lived with my parents out in south Surrey and there were one or two stores where comics could be got. But I usually preferred to make the trip into Vancouver for my comic book needs. IP: Logged |
NecessaryImpurity Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() By the late '80s, comics had disappeared from newstands all over North America. In the early '70s, they could still be found at every newstand in town. I used to walk along Johnson Road in White Rock, from the Safeway on the corner of North Bluff (now a Shoppers Drug Mart?) down the hill to Buena Vista and back. There must have been a dozen places to get comics in that 1/2 mile (pre-metric conversion Thirty years later, based on my visit last November, not a single building has the same business it did back then. White Rock has become a village of boutiques. IP: Logged |
Kamandi Last Boy on Earth Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() quote: I grew up in North Delta in the 70's. The only place to get comics within walking distance was the spinner rack at Mac's Milk. The selection was definitely limited . Whoever picked the orders at the magazine distributorship, probably Jim Pattison's Mainland Magazines, didn't care much if I was trying to collect the full run of Kamandi or John Carter of Mars. When I ran my own bookstore in the 80's they weren't much better. If you had a number of stores to go to, you probably got a much better selection of titles. IP: Logged |
India Ink Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() Here's another good link... http://members.tripod.com/~MitchellBrown/cancom/index.html IP: Logged |
Yesteryear Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() Thanks for the links guys. I've been looking for info on non-US heroes. IP: Logged |
India Ink Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() That last link has some swell stuff (although not enough scans), but for those who can't click it, I thought I would cut n paste its non-exhaustive list of "Canadian" characters (published by both Canadian and American companies): WE STAND ON GUARD FOR THEE No fancy introduction needed here, so let's get to right to it. This is a non-exhaustive list, so please feel free to mention any I've missed. The only rule here is that the characters listed must either be depicted as Canadian or created by Canadian artists. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ALPHA FLIGHT THE BRAIN BROK WINDSOR CANADA JACK CAPTAIN CANADA
CAPTAIN CANUCK CAPTAIN NEWFOUNDLAND CENTRIX DEREK OF BRAS D'OR DIXON OF THE MOUNTED FLEUR DE LYS FLYING FOX FREELANCE
FROSTBITE
GUARDIAN THE INVISIBLE COMMANDO IRON MAN JOHNNY CANUCK KÉBEC KING OF THE ROYAL MOUNTED NELVANA OF THE NORTHERN LIGHTS THE NORTHERN LIGHT
NORTHGUARD THE PENGUIN REX BAXTER ROBIN HOOD
WOLVERINE IP: Logged |
NecessaryImpurity Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() quote: In "Spectre Archives", the Oct '40 issue of More Fun has the price as "15˘ in Canada". This lasts until Jan '41. I'd seen this price differential in other Archives, and had originally thought this was just some exchange rate effect. Then I remembered both countries had silver coin, and thought it would be impossible to have anything other than a 1 to 1 exchange rate, so I attributed the difference to a tariff. I just now skimmed a paper from UBC that pointed out that government monetary policy could lead to imbalances between currencies, even if they were tied to a fixed standard such as gold or silver, so maybe the price differential was due to exchange rate difference after all. Sounds like the War Exchange Conservation Act was a response to this sudden imbalance in the exchange rate, and the flood of currency south. IP: Logged |
Hedorah Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() Don't forget LaBatt-man and Robin. IP: Logged |
India Ink Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() You know, I'm ignorant. I say this because--given my vaunted interest in both Canadian history and comics history--I have had ample opportunity in the past, well before the advent of the internet, to learn about Canadian comics and Maple Leaf comics in particular--such that it almost seems I've deliberately ignored this history, until now. I know in the past I've seen articles about Canadian comics and I've thumbed through available copies of Great Canadian Comic Books and Canuck Comics. But I'm really embarassed because there is a book that I've had for many years now, a valued resource on things Vancouver--and it (briefly) tells about Maple Leaf comics. This is The Vancouver Book by Chuck Davis (J.J. Douglas, 1976). Back in the seventies Chuck Davis was an admirable local journalist (in print and on TV) and our whole family dug whatever he had to say on any given topic. I seem to recall that my older brother got this book by Davis and it was passed around among the family, until finally I stole it, and I've had it eversince. So it's very likely I read the piece therein on Maple Leaf, but failed to commit it to memory. More recently there's been a new version of this book--called The Great Vancouver Book, I think--but I haven't checked this out and don't know if the Maple Leaf entry is duplicated in that edition. My aged newsprint copy of The Vancouver Book shows one full page and one half page of art from Maple Leaf--both by Vernon Miller, the full page being "The Adventures of Professor Miles & Bobby in the Earth Torpedo" and the half page being a splash panel of "The IRON MAN" (showing a Sub-Mariner-like Iron Man soaring above an exploding ship). The accompanying short article on "Comics" (p. 425) is written by David Grannis (then owner of Collectors Books and Comics, which was at 3626 West 16th--any new info on what Mr. Grannis is up to now would be appreciated):
quote: The last paragraph is probably even more obscure in its references than the preceding paragraphs on wartime Vancouver comics. In the middle of the seventies the Georgia Straight was trying to shake off its underground rag image. Previously, in the late sixties/early seventies, the Straight (aka Vancouver Free Press) was an outlaw leaflet of the hippy vanguard in Vancouver. In elementary school I remember forbidden copies of this obscene publication being passed around from hand to hand under our desks--and myself being shocked by some of the graphic comic depictions! To this day, my mother believes the Straight is still an obscene rag--and I don't dare bring it into the house when I'm visiting her for fear of that shocked look of disapproval. Although in fact it has become a middle-of-the road weekly, like many of the other free weeklies in Vancouver--akin to the Springfield Shopper. Bob Hunter was a prominent columnist for the Vancouver Sun in the seventies (which was then more in the middle as a newspaper--and not ultra rightwing as it is now). But Hunter was also a founding member of the Greenpeace movement, and he soon left his newspaper career in favour of his environmental crusade. I suspect that the seventies comics mentioned by Grannis (none of which I remember ever seeing) were along the lines of much home-made hippy art of the time. Part of a whole "underground" arts movement of the time, which included the Vancouver Poets. *** By the way I checked my collection and I have two copies of Charlton Bullseye no. 2 from 1981 that includes Neil the Horse by Arn Saba (and precedes Neil's publication by Aardvark/Vanaheim)--I doubt I would have bought two copies at that time unless I already had read some Neil the Horse stories elsewhere. IP: Logged |
India Ink Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() I have found the revised edition, recently released, of The Vancouver Book--called The Greater Vancouver Book--in the library. And in general it has much more content (with a smaller typeface) than the original edition--a much more professional job all around. BUT, try as I might I can't find anything in there--not a wit--about comics, let alone Maple Leaf. IP: Logged |
Kamandi Last Boy on Earth Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() Thanks for the info India. My background is in archaeology, not history, but, I've had a couple ideas where to look. I'll let you know if I "dig anything up". Even though Maple Leaf was based here in Vancouver, it doesn't mean we'll find anything locally. Do you suppose the Library of Canada actually has copies of these comics? IP: Logged |
Stan Brown Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() From their catalogue via website, the National Library of Canada has a microfiche set of 1940s Canadian comic books---I think they are the Bell Features Archive, so comics like Dime (featuring Johnny Canuck), Triumph (featuring Nelvana), Active, and others. Don't know if they have any actual comic books or titles from any other publisher. IP: Logged |
Mikel Midnight Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() quote: Actually, I have seen a Canadian set of MLJ reprints, and the cover had a union jack in place on the Shield's uniform! Unfortunately I don't know whether the redrawing continued in the interior. IP: Logged |
Stan Brown Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I just recently bought from ebay a comic like this, with the Shield sporting a Union Jack uniform--but the provenance is complicated. THe comic is Three Ring Comics, which was printed in Canada for export to Great Britain--it bears the cover indicia, "Distributed by Streamlined Books London England" and the cover price "6d." I would assume that this is a reprint of a comic first distributed in Canada, and not prepared specially for the British market--but who knows? IP: Logged |
Dr. Van Thorp Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() quote: I found a letter from the town where I live (Brighton, Michigan) on the letters page of a 1968 American Comics Group comic. This town has a population of about 2,000 in the late '60's. There was one locally owned drug store, and two small grocery stores that I know to have existed at that time, and American Comics Group managed to get their product distributed to this town. Now the town is completely suburbanized, and the town and surrounding township have a population of over 50,000. Comics are available on one spin rack at the Borders next to the highway. There are occasional issues of Superman or Archie digests on Meijer's magazine rack. I buy my comics in a comic shop 25 miles away. IP: Logged |
Bgztl Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Polka-Dot Pirate?!?!?!? Oh please, somebody, have a scan of this one!!! It's almost as weird as Madame Fatal or Gay Ghost. Any more information on this oddball title/hero? IP: Logged |
Bgztl Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() quote: Anybody? I know the clock is ticking down on these threads, but I would love to know about this one. IP: Logged |
India Ink Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() I didn't find the scan you wanted, Bgztl, but google did take me to this page about the Penguin by Adrian Dingle, in which Polka-Dot, the Lady Pirate, is mentioned. http://www.unb.ca/bruns/9697/ents/Issue22/ungabunga.html IP: Logged |
India Ink Member |
![]() ![]() ![]() Here's the sum total of what is said about Polka-Dot from that page: Back in the early days of the Canada Whites studios were turning out hundreds of characters annually in hopes that at least one could match the popularity of the American heroes. With such a glut of heroes, good names were hard to come by, hence the Penguin and other faux pas monickers such as Whiz Wallace, Hugh Dunnit or Polka-Dot, Lady Pirate. After you get past the nearly unpalatable name you discover a hero every way the superior to the American heroes, including Batman. ________ Not much, but I'll keep looking out for any more on these characters. IP: Logged |
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